Editing OrbiterWiki:Village pump

Just a page for general OrbiterWiki discussions (for keeping the [[Talk:Main Page]] related to the main page). 

Archived discussions can be found at [[OrbiterWiki:Village pump/Archive 2005-2007|Village pump/Archive 2005-2007]].

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== Suggestions ==

I've got a couple of suggestions regarding this wiki:
# <span style="color:red">(done)</span> Archive all the stuff we have on Village pump
# <span style="color:red">(done)</span> Change the random addon voting: instead of casting votes, just list each one exactly once. Otherwise newly added addons are shown less often, and that's not very fair.
# Write the words OrbiterWiki across the logo (I can upload some of my attempts)
# Change the wiki back to case-insensitive. The development to make it _fully_ case insensitive never materialised obviously, so rather than sticking with the (as I see it) inconvenient _fully_ case sensitive we would be better off using the standard case sensitivity mode (same as Wikipedia)

I'll do all of these things if no-one complains :) --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 17:13, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

:Can you also check if the display of categories is still active? I just tested it and noticed that no article shows the category - though it should. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 08:28, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
:: Fixed. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 23:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

== Database error when banning registered user ==

Database error when banning users:

<pre>
A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:

    (SQL query hidden)

from within function "Parser::replaceLinkHolders". MySQL returned error "1271: Illegal mix of collations for operation ' IN ' (localhost)".
</pre>

--[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 01:15, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

:Will check this out asap. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 21:53, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

::Hmm it works for me. Might have been a temporary glitch. Post back if it happens again. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 22:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

:::I have the same error report now, when trying to access the article [[Ganymede]]. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 10:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

::::Confirmed, will be fixed soon. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 12:38, 12 April 2008 (BST)

== Bot users ==

We have a large number of bot users around from looking into the user list, is there a way to remove them from the user list? I can only ban those directly, who are active, which means we have a large number of sleeping bot accounts in our wiki. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 12:01, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

: I could purge all users having 0 edits easily. With a bit of thought and SQL magic I might be able to purge all users who have all their edits marked as vandalism - not sure how hard this would be though. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 12:40, 12 April 2008 (BST)

== The latest vandalism and sock puppetry ==

After a short study of the matter on Wikipedia, I have two questions and I want really good answers:

What has [[User:Gerald Gonzales]]/[[User:Gerald Gonzalez]]/[[User:UrwumpeSHIT]]/[[User:FUCK YOU URWUMPE]],  to do with [[User:Ouch]]/Unknownquinones and [[User:CWii]]? 

And can I have CheckUser[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CheckUser] capability installed? 

Why I have this question? Follow these links:
#Start here:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Gerald_Gonzalez]
#Go there:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gerald_Gonzalez]
#Read the last entry and go there:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Unknownquinones]
#And finally locate:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CWii]

I want really good answers. 

As long as this case is still open, I suppose not extending the user rights of anybody.

--[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 10:08, 21 June 2008 (BST)

:Read [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Unknownquinones&oldid=219248563#Tex this] as to who unknownquinones is. I would say Cwii just got 'Gerald' mad at him, and that Cwii, knowing that Gerald had been here, came and reverted his edits here as well. That said, I don't know for sure, I can find out more later today. [[User:To be|To be]] 20:07, 21 June 2008 (BST)
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 Just a page for general OrbiterWiki discussions (for keeping the [[Talk:Main Page]] related to the main page).
-View archived discussions for [[OrbiterWiki:Village pump/Archive 2005-2007|2005-2007]], [[OrbiterWiki:Village pump/Archive 2008-2010|2008-2010]], [[OrbiterWiki:Village pump/Archive 2011-2013|2011-2013]].
+Archived discussions can be found at [[OrbiterWiki:Village pump/Archive 2005-2007|Village pump/Archive 2005-2007]].
 <span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:OrbiterWiki:Village pump|action=edit&section=new}} Add a new thread]</span>
-== Recent updates ==
+== Suggestions ==
-Hi! OrbiterWiki is on a new server again, and should be a bit faster now. It's also running the latest software now. Among notable improvements is improved support for high-DPI screens (or zooms above 100% on any screen). In particular, thumbnails will now be sharp as long as the source image is large enough, and MediaWiki Math equations are rendered nicely for such devices.
+I've got a couple of suggestions regarding this wiki:
+# <span style="color:red">(done)</span> Archive all the stuff we have on Village pump
+# <span style="color:red">(done)</span> Change the random addon voting: instead of casting votes, just list each one exactly once. Otherwise newly added addons are shown less often, and that's not very fair.
+# Write the words OrbiterWiki across the logo (I can upload some of my attempts)
+# Change the wiki back to case-insensitive. The development to make it _fully_ case insensitive never materialised obviously, so rather than sticking with the (as I see it) inconvenient _fully_ case sensitive we would be better off using the standard case sensitivity mode (same as Wikipedia)
-I've modified the main page slightly; if anyone wishes to trim down the list of links, suggestions are welcome.
+I'll do all of these things if no-one complains :) --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 17:13, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
-Finally, I'm thinking about switching the default font for the entire site; if done, the site will look like this: [http://i.imgur.com/YY8bii9.png low DPI] [http://i.imgur.com/DDVtRS3.png high DPI]. Speak up now if you have objections!
+:Can you also check if the display of categories is still active? I just tested it and noticed that no article shows the category - though it should. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 08:28, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
+:: Fixed. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 23:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
---[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] ([[User talk:RaMan|talk]]) 17:52, 20 October 2014 (IST)
+== Database error when banning registered user ==
-== Fighting the spam ==
+Database error when banning users:
-Can we enable the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit ConfirmEdit] extension of Mediawiki? I am overwhelmed with the amount of spam we get and if this is properly configured, it might reduce this a lot. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] ([[User talk:Urwumpe|talk]]) 10:03, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
+<pre>
-: It's done! --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] ([[User talk:RaMan|talk]]) 23:37, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
+A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
-== Maintenance ==
+    (SQL query hidden)
-Last year we moved to a new server and upgraded MediaWiki, and a bunch of extensions got disabled in the process, and the move was generally left unfinished.
-It is finally finished, I've done some much needed maintenance, everything is looking much happier now!
+from within function "Parser::replaceLinkHolders". MySQL returned error "1271: Illegal mix of collations for operation ' IN ' (localhost)".
+</pre>
-* Burninated all of the spam. If anything's gone that shouldn't be, let me know, I have backups.
+--[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 01:15, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
-* Fixed all of the anti-spam extensions that were disabled during 1.34 upgrade. We now have: AbuseFilter, SpamBlacklist/TitleBlacklist, hcaptcha for signups, Nuke, CheckUser.
-* Fixed the caching settings; everything is faster.
-* Fixed email
-* Fixed rendering of SVG previews
-* Fixed rendering of MathML
-* Installed the Citizen skin, though it's less amazing than I hoped - check it out in your user preferences. It has a dark mode.
---[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] ([[User talk:RaMan|talk]]) 23:37, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
-::I can't log-in anymore, there seem to be some problems with the CSRF tokens. -- Urwumpe
+:Will check this out asap. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 21:53, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
-::: Could you try again? I have seen it a few times but never consistently. I think it may only be an issue the first time. If it's still not working please try clearing your cookies? After that, if it ever returns please let me know. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] ([[User talk:RaMan|talk]]) 13:52, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
-::::Same problem, despite erasing all cookies and restarting the browser session, in case there is a bad CSRF token hanging around. Happens also when using different browsers. Tried Edge, Chrome and Firefox now. It complains about the CSRF protection in a red box, maybe that is a hint. --Urwumpe
-::I've tweaked the settings again. It was weird: worked for a day before breaking; any time I touch the settings, it starts working again - and then breaks again later. User sessions are now stored in the DB instead of the PHP cache so hopefully this is now fixed for good? --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] ([[User talk:RaMan|talk]]) 17:59, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
-It worked, I’m in. So far so good. RaMan and Urwumpe, thanks for all the work you’ve done to get this fixed. Hopefully, it stays.[[User:Arvil|Arvil]] ([[User talk:Arvil|talk]]) 20:52, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
+::Hmm it works for me. Might have been a temporary glitch. Post back if it happens again. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 22:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
-I am back again as well, looks fine now :) [[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] ([[User talk:Urwumpe|talk]]) 09:51, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
+:::I have the same error report now, when trying to access the article [[Ganymede]]. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 10:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
-== More spam pages ==
+::::Confirmed, will be fixed soon. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 12:38, 12 April 2008 (BST)
-Next time one of you guys happen to stop in, there are a number of spam pages I added spam categories to, if you could take a look at.
-And the one titled [[10 Best NFT Games To Play In 2022 - Tezro Blog]], I added the categories and another undid that, so I reinstated it. We'll see how long that lasts. Thanks. [[User:Arvil|Arvil]] ([[User talk:Arvil|talk]]) 04:05, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
-Hey, another question. If I browse this wiki as a guest, not logged in, and follow this to [[Special:Categories]], and scroll down to List Pages, it says there are 670 or so pages, but, if I click on the link and go to the page <nowiki>Category:List pages<nowiki>, there is only Dwarf planets listed. But, if I log in as my user, I can see all the pages. Any idea why?[[User:Arvil|Arvil]] ([[User talk:Arvil|talk]]) 02:45, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
+== Bot users ==
+We have a large number of bot users around from looking into the user list, is there a way to remove them from the user list? I can only ban those directly, who are active, which means we have a large number of sleeping bot accounts in our wiki. --[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 12:01, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
+: I could purge all users having 0 edits easily. With a bit of thought and SQL magic I might be able to purge all users who have all their edits marked as vandalism - not sure how hard this would be though. --[[User:RaMan|RaMan]] 12:40, 12 April 2008 (BST)
+== The latest vandalism and sock puppetry ==
+After a short study of the matter on Wikipedia, I have two questions and I want really good answers:
+What has [[User:Gerald Gonzales]]/[[User:Gerald Gonzalez]]/[[User:UrwumpeSHIT]]/[[User:FUCK YOU URWUMPE]],  to do with [[User:Ouch]]/Unknownquinones and [[User:CWii]]?
+And can I have CheckUser[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CheckUser] capability installed?
+Why I have this question? Follow these links:
+#Start here:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Gerald_Gonzalez]
+#Go there:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gerald_Gonzalez]
+#Read the last entry and go there:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Unknownquinones]
+#And finally locate:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CWii]
+I want really good answers.
+As long as this case is still open, I suppose not extending the user rights of anybody.
+--[[User:Urwumpe|Urwumpe]] 10:08, 21 June 2008 (BST)
+:Read [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Unknownquinones&oldid=219248563#Tex this] as to who unknownquinones is. I would say Cwii just got 'Gerald' mad at him, and that Cwii, knowing that Gerald had been here, came and reverted his edits here as well. That said, I don't know for sure, I can find out more later today. [[User:To be|To be]] 20:07, 21 June 2008 (BST)